Robert Lang
Stainless
- Joined
- Apr 3, 2007
- Location
- Minneapolis, MN
This is about the planer I brought back from Arkansas back in 2008.
Original thread when the planer was advertised;
Antique Machine Tools F/S
Thread when I went to pick the planer up.
Planer recovered from Arkansas
I now have an id on the maker of the planer and a rough date it was made.
It is a New Haven Manufacturing (Mfg.) Co. planer made around the mid to late 1850's.
I originally thought the planer was made around 1850 to 1860.
I later second guessed myself on the date to the middle to late 1860's, which was wrong.
At the time, I was unsure of the maker.
There were many certain design and construction characteristics and styling that indicated New Haven Mfg., but the legs threw me.
I had never seen legs like that on any New Haven machine.
I did have an 1855 ad for New Haven Mfg., showing a lathe with legs like the planer.
I discounted the illustration of the lathe in the ad as being a New Haven.
It did not look like any New Haven lathe I had ever seen.
Also I had seen the same lathe illustration in another article that was unrelated to New Haven.
I figured it was just a printers block that the printer was using.
I was recently doing some research on Scranton & Parshley of New Haven Ct.(David Scranton, John Parshley).
I came across something that indicated that the Ford Museum had something on Scranton & Parshley lathes.
I told PM member esbutler about it.
He contacted the museum and they sent him a scan of a Scranton & Parshley lathe flyer. This flyer would date around 1849 to 1851.
When I saw the lathe illustrated in the flyer, I knew the lathe in the 1855 New Haven ad was the same maker and was indeed a New Haven Mfg. lathe.
This clinched it for the legs on the planer.
The lathe in the Scranton & Parshley flyer and the 1855 New Haven Mfg. ad are quite unique.
Both are chain feed and have dual controls, one at the head stock and one at the tail stock end.
Both have the same tail stock with the quill clamp on the side. Both have the same gearing on the head stock end.
The 1855 ad has a slightly different saddle and of course the newer legs.
Scranton & Parshley would become New Haven Mfg., Co. in 1852.
The New Haven city directories are not all on the internet.
The ones I found are , 1840, 1841, 1842, 1843, 1844, 1845, 1847, 1849, 1852, 1856, 1863, 1868, 1869, 1871 and 1872.
David Scranton was born in 1800.
He is listed in the 1840 directory as a machinist at the location which would become New Haven Mfg.'s location.
It does not say what David was making.
In 1847 David has Soloman Johnson as a partner.
In 1849 David now has John Parshley as a partner at the same location of 2 Howard St.
In the 1849 Scientific American, Scranton & Parshley have ads for only making lathes.
In 1850 they add planers driven by rack and pinion.
In 1851 they add upright drills and gear cutters.
In 1852 Asahel and Henry Pierpont come in. Asahel is the financier, ie the money man.
In 1852, with David, John, Asahel and Henry, they change the name to New Haven Manufacturing Co.
In late 1852 John Parshley leaves and goes across the street to 5 Howard St. and starts his own company of John Parshley.
In late 1856 John Parshley dies and his estate, company and property are liquidated.
David Scranton stays with New Haven Mfg. until his death in 1873. In the 1872 directory he is listed as one of the directors of the company.
Attached are the Scranton & Parshley flyer, the 1855 New Have ad and an article from 1860.
The 1860 article does not say the maker of the lathe, just the seller, but it is a New Haven Mfg. lathe.
Rob
Original thread when the planer was advertised;
Antique Machine Tools F/S
Thread when I went to pick the planer up.
Planer recovered from Arkansas
I now have an id on the maker of the planer and a rough date it was made.
It is a New Haven Manufacturing (Mfg.) Co. planer made around the mid to late 1850's.
I originally thought the planer was made around 1850 to 1860.
I later second guessed myself on the date to the middle to late 1860's, which was wrong.
At the time, I was unsure of the maker.
There were many certain design and construction characteristics and styling that indicated New Haven Mfg., but the legs threw me.
I had never seen legs like that on any New Haven machine.
I did have an 1855 ad for New Haven Mfg., showing a lathe with legs like the planer.
I discounted the illustration of the lathe in the ad as being a New Haven.
It did not look like any New Haven lathe I had ever seen.
Also I had seen the same lathe illustration in another article that was unrelated to New Haven.
I figured it was just a printers block that the printer was using.
I was recently doing some research on Scranton & Parshley of New Haven Ct.(David Scranton, John Parshley).
I came across something that indicated that the Ford Museum had something on Scranton & Parshley lathes.
I told PM member esbutler about it.
He contacted the museum and they sent him a scan of a Scranton & Parshley lathe flyer. This flyer would date around 1849 to 1851.
When I saw the lathe illustrated in the flyer, I knew the lathe in the 1855 New Haven ad was the same maker and was indeed a New Haven Mfg. lathe.
This clinched it for the legs on the planer.
The lathe in the Scranton & Parshley flyer and the 1855 New Haven Mfg. ad are quite unique.
Both are chain feed and have dual controls, one at the head stock and one at the tail stock end.
Both have the same tail stock with the quill clamp on the side. Both have the same gearing on the head stock end.
The 1855 ad has a slightly different saddle and of course the newer legs.
Scranton & Parshley would become New Haven Mfg., Co. in 1852.
The New Haven city directories are not all on the internet.
The ones I found are , 1840, 1841, 1842, 1843, 1844, 1845, 1847, 1849, 1852, 1856, 1863, 1868, 1869, 1871 and 1872.
David Scranton was born in 1800.
He is listed in the 1840 directory as a machinist at the location which would become New Haven Mfg.'s location.
It does not say what David was making.
In 1847 David has Soloman Johnson as a partner.
In 1849 David now has John Parshley as a partner at the same location of 2 Howard St.
In the 1849 Scientific American, Scranton & Parshley have ads for only making lathes.
In 1850 they add planers driven by rack and pinion.
In 1851 they add upright drills and gear cutters.
In 1852 Asahel and Henry Pierpont come in. Asahel is the financier, ie the money man.
In 1852, with David, John, Asahel and Henry, they change the name to New Haven Manufacturing Co.
In late 1852 John Parshley leaves and goes across the street to 5 Howard St. and starts his own company of John Parshley.
In late 1856 John Parshley dies and his estate, company and property are liquidated.
David Scranton stays with New Haven Mfg. until his death in 1873. In the 1872 directory he is listed as one of the directors of the company.
Attached are the Scranton & Parshley flyer, the 1855 New Have ad and an article from 1860.
The 1860 article does not say the maker of the lathe, just the seller, but it is a New Haven Mfg. lathe.
Rob